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Stevethehammer 1:22 Mon Feb 6
Man city breaking financial rules

Been done again

Bet nothibg happens again aswell

goose 1:35 Thu Feb 9
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so which countries watch the most PL/CL football?

due to the numbers you'd expect asia or the indian sub-continent?

southbankbornnbred 1:20 Thu Feb 9
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MO - nah, Saudi only has a population of 34 million. Half of them are women, and we know how they get treated, and of the remaining 17 million only a couple are interested in football enough to actually watch. Of those, about four people actually know the names of Premier League players. I genuinely once met a Saudi who thought Messi played for Manchester United.

In Abu Dhabi (Man City's owners), there's only 1.7m people. Same process. And the other emirates are, internally, fierce rivals - so the mob in Dubai aren't going to be unhappy with Man City's potential punishment.

Money talks, sure. But it's not straightforward.

zico 3:45 Wed Feb 8
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So if Mancini was being paid tow set of wages, does this suggest that Pep will be "allegedly" receiving same?

Mike Oxsaw 3:31 Wed Feb 8
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Who holds the PL broadcast rights around the globe?

Not beyond the possibility that should the PL take action against certain clubs/owners that they find that a large % of their global paying audience (sponsor devourers) suddenly become unreachable.

eusebiovic 3:23 Wed Feb 8
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Jeez - They are going to need a shit load of brown envelopes to sort all that shit out...

Time to log on at Viking Direct...As they have money probably Ryman will do.

southbankbornnbred 2:57 Wed Feb 8
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No idea what punishment, if any, Man City will receive.

But while the Premier League is suddenly in the habit of actually trying to enforce 'rules', then maybe they want to undertake a full 'fit and proper person' test on Newcastle's ultimate owners?

Because that's another shit-storm waiting to happen, and to which the PL and others have turned a convenient blind eye.

Eerie Descent 2:55 Wed Feb 8
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They'll get a fine, and fuck all else. Maybe a transfer ban for a couple of windows.

roltrader 2:19 Wed Feb 8
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They will get a slap on the wrist, small change fine and then carry on as usual, probably winning the league. HTH

Ron Greensward 2:06 Wed Feb 8
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There is only one punishment which fits the crime. A la Rangers in Scotland, expulsion from the league. An example has to be set so other teams also stop being creative around their accounts (Chelsea next).

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:32 Wed Feb 8
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Since the advent of the Fixed Term Parliament Act (thanks David) and the Supreme Court's farcical decision in the Prorogation case (thanks, Gina) there is no longer any limitation on what a government with a decent majority can do.

So there's that.

At some point there's going to be a government that decides it's going to suspend democracy and Royal Assent. And maybe install a national leader that combines the role of Premier and Head of State. Just for a bit. During this...um...crisis. And it will all be perfectly legal.

Dishing out sanctions to Man City will be a piece of piss. Hey-ho!

gph 1:11 Wed Feb 8
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So, if we can't sell Declan for £110mn, does that mean we keep him?

*prepares for the club to sell him for £30mn*

Steady 9:26 Tue Feb 7
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Screws up our Declan for Phillips and £50 mill deal

only1billybonds 8:32 Tue Feb 7
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Cheers Crass, I'll have a dig into this later. Guessing another bumper payday is on its way for the lawyers.

Crassus 8:16 Tue Feb 7
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Oh and there is no statute of limitation on the heavy end, so the prosecution can unravel and shoot at any foul play from year dot

Crassus 8:11 Tue Feb 7
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Hiya mate - in summary

The PL can do what they see fit under FFP compliance regulations, but that falls under a statute of limitation, five years iirc, hence they escaped the second time they were captured (settled a large UEFA fine the first time) by running the clock to a technical result for them

But the real issue is that City are alleged to have committed corporate fraud to evade those regulations a third time, that is a matter for the law and given a couple of the publicly stated aspects are the same as Juve, it's a serious issue
Juve, a public company, are facing a charge of tax evasion, money laundering, corporate fraud and misrepresentation through the accounts of income and expenditure - the case is due this year, a state prosecution of the club and directors
Oh and to compound the matter, Juve held their hands up, pleading a feeble but in Italy, likely everyone is at it defence - City by contrast have carried a conspiracy of deception in excess of a decade and lied through previous hearings
They are gonna need a bigger lawyer

only1billybonds 7:55 Tue Feb 7
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Hi ya Crass.

Are the PL limited in what they can impose on City?
Been a bit to busy to study the details so still in the dark in this one.
Are they (city) under greater threat from the football authorities or the law itself?

Crassus 7:29 Tue Feb 7
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As I continue to say, if this is as described, then it is a matter of corporate law, end of and will follow it's own path irrespective of the wishes of the PL and whatever sanction they apply
They will however, consider themselves in a corner, given the inconveniently timed but separate issue of independent governance

threesixty 7:07 Tue Feb 7
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The other side of this is that a lot of premier league clubs have benefitted from Man City’s excessive spending. Eg Would Villa get 100m for Greaslish? Lots of clubs accross Europe have benefited from the cash injection that these owners make.

I’m wondering how much the whole football industry is really upset by any of this? And if they’re not that upset what’s the chances of the punishments been given out that curtail this type of thing?

This could just be a show of strength just to put the govt off from doing anything drastic but not to really stop any of it.

only1billybonds 6:38 Tue Feb 7
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I would welcome the formation of a 'super league' as long as the participants understood that once they fuck off itvstays that way.
Problem for me is that it wouldnt be long before the likes of us, Villa, Everton etc were clamouring to join, then the so called elites would be talking about a 'super duper' league.

One thing is for sure, if City come out of this relatively unscathed then football will be judged as being incapable of regulating itself and the clubs will do what they want regardless.

only1billybonds 6:38 Tue Feb 7
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I would welcome the formation of a 'super league' as long as the participants understood that once they fuck off itvstays that way.
Problem for me is that it wouldnt be long before the likes of us, Villa, Everton etc were clamouring to join, then the so called elites would be talking about a 'super duper' league.

One thing is for sure, if City come out of this relatively unscathed then football will be judged as being incapable of regulating itself and the clubs will do what they want regardless.

Mike Oxsaw 5:23 Tue Feb 7
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Is the answer "Yes, we'll tighten the regulations on PL clubs, the Big 6 will all fuck off to the ESL and we'll have to raise the basic rate of income tax by 2p in the pound as a result"?

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